Really ready. They will call the meeting you were just with the December first
meeting of the Yellow Springs Village Council Hi Judy would you please call the
roll yes wintery here ask Lee Yeah since we're out of here Erin McLean is out
this you think of the present and. Future jail time if you somewhere. And village
minister Penny bits and who's that guy sitting to your right I'm sorry. I'm going
to get that that's what I mean this is the village solicitor now has
a connard. Could have been settled one side against your system was kind of missing
me because he said look I posed. Well we have
a very exciting thing all OK ladies is everyone here or should I. Or we are
ready for the girls let's go Girl Scouts are you all here is what came of it I
think what OK well why don't we go ahead and do the minutes. Well we've announced
now yes and we will go ahead and do the minutes of the last meeting. So Page
one. Page two.
And I will interject here to say that I think both Brian and I had sent just
typographical corrections to Judy earlier in the day on your table you will find
a corrected version but we didn't even get any content so if any of you have
content that would be the thing to point out page three.
Page four. I would like to know after both ordinances
it says that I open the public hearing we really didn't have
a public hearing and we just ask for citizen comment. The first one when trial
asked for citizen comment there was nine and then down. Closer to the bottom winter
zero where it says winter open the public hearing of likes to substitute Winter
asked for public comment. Page five.
Page six. Seven.
Eight. Nine. Ten.
I have one here closer to the bottom of the. Fifth paragraph.
When trocar amenities she considers the site developable and noted that she had
passed this site along for
a job so high Oh inquiry to Greene County Department of development.
Page eleven. I would note that if this didn't get corrected near the top of the
page the second paragraph. Since suggested paying their president winter Agreed but
commented that I don't know that I said Council I hope I said staff needs to have
more authority. Page twelve.
One last thing near the bottom winter announced chamber meeting for Thursday I'm
marketing and plans for the holidays. Can I have
a motion to accept it's corrected some second is in favor seem to be saying I got
it. Still waiting OK. We'll
go we'll do other announcements and then wait for her and if there's if she then
what this guy had if after we've gone through the rest of the announcements. Oh
great I recognize them. So let's go ahead and do the do the
ceremony so Patti I would actually like you to describe the project and well this
project actually started before I got here the Girl Scout Troop three zero
zero zero three requested permission from interim village manager Ken Bristol to be
allowed to clean up and restore the amphitheater which is for those of you don't
know we have an empathy in her which is this way and it's really
a beautiful site and people use it for weddings and we've had people asked to stage
plays but it was overgrown there was
a lot of poison ivy and debris back there and these young ladies took it upon
themselves to clean it up very nicely for us and they've even talked principal how
at the elementary school into making
a maintenance agreement with them to have some of the students from the school
maintain that area and keep it nice and clean for us. And council house.
Some of you might really have
a good. Role you would know that leaders. There
you write that ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha sirrah Krishi
a shill for the person that girls you know who you number three call thirty
thousand pretty big we will hear it here again around John Brennan community center
in here to make it more usable enjoy and enjoy your residence in this your
struggling village of Yellow Springs now presence as you continue to refuse him the
trip leader me and me again holier Challis while asses. And
cadets Carol said nothing lasts Why don't you raise your hands I mean you're OK He
had
a law said. You meet again. Sir I said well let's. Hear what
Paul's You know he's here he's the one missing in recession right resent it this
first day of September on December two thousand one thousand signed by myself here
in trouble or
a house near you we general sense and right and house congratulate.
You and your great work. That he thinks has you ladies
a great. Job.
And. Any other announcements
I just want to know that the community access panel meeting is going to be this
Wednesday December third we needed to avoid the later in the month holidays so we
moved it up. Anything else. OK. Moving on to
a review of the agenda is there we do have one piece of legislation we're adding
two thousand and fourteen dash sixty three wrestle. Lucia and it said then and now
certificate anything else that council wanted to do entertain adding to the agenda
or moving around anything. Well let me just ask though so we put in
we submitted the proposed community access panel survey Do we need to talk about
that as council or isn't enough just to kind of of seen it it is this something
that you're planning on putting out. Let's just put it on your new
business and OK. Caps are OK Anything else.
OK. Lori and when you review that petitions and communications or.
Two letters from so many of my sister and Cory Whitaker regarding the police the
civically dressing it's very. Helpful to know the pressing concerns about.
Her and ride and the incident with. His fantasies from last that we discussed last
time and then. You know then you need
meisters letter was also included concerns about the hiring process for the new
chief. Bryant and
a letter about the caps or maybe it will be typed at that later Bruce may. Is the
director of the ACE drug task force and they had
a very large. Arrest and.
Taking not
a million dollars worth of illegal drugs from drug trafficking organization and two
of our officers were involved in that five officers Penrod
and Howley were both corporate aided and were praised in letter from the director.
And. Oh yes and we also got
a letter from Vicki Hennessy that it was just on the table but regarding Morris
bean and concerns about the well field. And I'm sure that that's something that.
I would know I have
a meeting set for tomorrow Nikki and I'm trying to get one set with more spin for
next week thank you. OK we'll move on to public here in San legislation.
First we had second reading in public hearing of ordinance twenty fourteen dash
twenty five I want you to read at OK Now do you want this by title only or the most
men go ahead and no let me say that. Since that's
a rate increase let's go ahead Maria that that's
a very this is amending section ten forty eight point zero five and Chapter ten
forty eight sewers and sewage apart ten streets utilities public services codes the
kind of head ordinances of the bill you build Springs Ohio in an acting live there
of a new section
a temporary or do I pay service charges village of council of the village of Yellow
Springs Ohio here Caribbeans that section one section ten forty eight point zero
five B.
Of chapter twenty eight sewers and sewage per ten street utilities and Public
Service closed code of the codified ordinances of the village of Yellow Springs
will be repealed Section two that in Section ten forty eight would often have
a history as being part of Chapter ten forty eight approach and of the kind of
order fight ordinance if it feels principle of you know it could be read as follows
day each customer connected to the municipal water system within the village shop
a monthly sewer service charge which includes
a readiness for service charge or if it is based upon the customer's water meter
size and sewer charge for each thousand gallons of usage the effective date. Is
January first twenty fifteen the R. And S.
Rate per month is religion dollars and eighty cents the consumption consumption
charge per thousand gallons is five dollars and seventy cents Section three Zordon
should take effect and be in full force of the earliest period allowed by law Thank
you. Can I have
a motion please so second. Patty say
a couple words about this this was the ordinance that. Council talked about
previously we had
a forgiveness on the first one thousand gallons of sewer that was treated at the
village water reclamation facility. To make it more compatible
and as it is with water with water you pay
a passerby charge and then you pay for each thousand gallons but on sewer you are
paying
a capacity charge but you didn't pay anything for the first thousand gallons of
treatment what this ordinance does is make it more compatible with the the water
charges in the the way that that is done and it was the simple measure that was
brought before council to help with the budget situation in the sewer Enterprise
Fund and it will basically keep us in the black It will it will keep us from going
into the red so I would say it's we are still going to be doing
a great study in twenty fifteen but this was
a. Recommendation made by Melissa the finance director to correct and
myself bridge that gap grade and so the rates haven't changed here just as her not
changed it's the simply that you were that each user is now paying for that first
thousand gallons to be treated. This is the second reading and
a public hearing so I will open the public hearing with. It in the.
Seeing and hearing no comments I will bring it back to counsel table and the last
comments from counsel Judy would you please call the rule yes ask them yes yes
since yes winter if yes. And I have to do this to you David
again because it's
a rate increase I'm just going to ask to have it's. Brad. And fall.
This is
a mint this is ordinance twenty fourteen ish twenty six amending section ten sixty
point zero six service charges of Chapter ten sixty storage
a collection of garbage and other used other services of Title Six other public
services per ten street utilities and public services of the covered ordinances of
the religion feels Prince Ohio whereas the village has
a contract with Rocky waste incorporated for solid waste rates in yard waste
collection as authorized by ordinance ninety nine point zero eight and where is due
to high cost of fuel an additional fuel surcharge will be billed to each customer
and whereas current charges will fail to meet the financial obligations of current
rates charged high ranking in the fuel surcharge cost associated with providing
said service and where is it is village councils intend to amend solid waste rates
to meet the aforementioned financial obligations another for the Council of the
village of yours brings with her here are against that section one section ten
sixty point zero six B.
One shall be amended to read charges one based charges for the collection
disposable disposal of garbage reference and or recyclable shall be in accordance
with the following monthly rate schedule no the references to quantities below are
exclusive of the supplement of all in
a box Adams residential present premises and the volume of recyclables from
recycling bins provided to office. On the track I am garbage collected weekly
effective one one fifteen not more than thirty five gallons eleven dollars ninety
six cents not more than sixty five gallons thirteen dollars an eleven cents not
more than one hundred twenty gallons fourteen dollars and twenty six cents not more
than one hundred fifty gallons twenty six dollars and twenty two cents more than
one hundred eighty gallons twenty seven twenty seven dollars and thirty seven cents
more than two hundred forty gallons twenty eight dollars and fifty two cents now
more than two hundred seventy gallons forty dollars and forty eight cents now more
than three hundred gallons forty one of the three cents fuel surcharge will be
adjusted on
a monthly basis based on the Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration
highway diesel price index reading for the Midwest region on the last Monday the
month the fuel charge surcharge will be added to the monthly rates in accordance
with the attached fuel surcharge table. See attached section to section ten sixty
point zero sixty five shall read the village manager is authorized to provide for
the occasional collection of extra containers from householders and commercial
operators on the basis of
a container charge of two don't treat your grease bacon one dollar twenty five
cents for each extra trash sticker the village manager shall provide the rules of
the show include
a monthly yard which program Section three is written should take effect and be
a full force state you can watch thank you kind of promotion place so move started
. Again just as as Patty said with the last we were in
a deficit situation with the solid waste fund and this was
a simple stopgap measure to preclude that from happening this is
a fund that basically the money coming in and goes out we don't have to build
a large reserve in this find and we will be in two thousand and fifteen probably
towards the end of twenty fifteen. August of twenty fifteen looking at negotiating
a new solid waste contract so hopefully well. We won't have to do this what won't
get will have a better system for how we're charging the solid waste Council
a couple of comments or questions this is the second reading and
a public hearing I will open the public hearing. For public comment seeing and
hearing on I'll bring it back to council table Judy yes ask and yes sounds Yes Yes
Literally yes. OK Next is waiting in public hearing of organs twenty
fourteen Nash twenty eight accepting fourth quarter twenty fourteen supplemental
appropriations and declaring an emergency workers weren't in school but it's five
fourteen national seven hundred fourteen desolated free Fortunately teen read up to
make appropriations for current expenses and other expenditures in the village of
Yellow Springs State of Ohio during the fiscal year and in December thirty first
twenty fourteen and raise village council make supplemental appropriations to
reflect adjustments which occurred throughout the fiscal year and whereas this
ordinance is here pretty clear to be an emerging emergency measure necessary to
preserve the public interest and her my first special emergency in the operation of
village services such emergency being the urgent necessity to provide for
legitimate expenditures and amend the in you appropriation neither for the Council
for the village of Yellow Springs Ohio here bridge here by or against that section
one to provide for expenses and other expenditures of the said village of Yellow
Springs During to school year and in December thirty one twenty fourteen the
following films are hereby set aside and appropriated as follows Section two to be
appropriated for the general fund the total general fund appropriations cranks are
three million four hundred sixty two thousand nine hundred twenty one dollars the
supplemental is sixty five thousand seven hundred ten dollars making the amended
budget three million five hundred twenty eight thousand six hundred thirty one
dollars sixty three the three that there be appropriated from following special
revenue funds. The total is the current budget is my. One million six hundred fifty
thousand one hundred thirty eight dollars the supplemental is
a negative fifty nine thousand four hundred eighty dollars making the amended
budget one million five hundred ninety nine thousand four. Section for that to be
appropriated from the capital project funds the total is three hundred twenty seven
thousand three hundred dollars via the supplemental is one hundred five thousand
dollars making even voted for him in two thousand three hundred dollars Section
five that there be appropriated from the enterprise funds the current total is six
million one hundred seventeen thousand four and forty seven dollars supplemental is
ninety five thousand six hundred forty five dollars making the amended budget six
million two hundred thirty thousand and ninety two dollars section seven of the
appropriation from the total fund budget is as follows The gradual appropriations
for off funds current is eleven million five hundred sixty six thousand six hundred
six dollars the supplemental is two hundred six thousand eight hundred seventy five
dollars and he amended budget eleven million seven and seven hundred seventy three
thousand four hundred eighty one Section eight finance director of the Internet if
you're here by authorized or warrants on the village Treasury for payments from any
of the four whoring appropriations upon receiving the certificates and vouchers
that your group an ordinance of council make expenditures provided that no one
shall be going to pay for salaries or ages except to persons employed by authority
of and in accordance with such work in section nine this ordinance is here but
a claim to be an emergency measure immediately necessary to preserve the highest in
the health safety and welfare of the citizens of the list wherefore this wouldn't
be in effect immediately upon its adoption me and I get
a motion in the second. Patti I will turn this over to you for an explanation of
some of my counsel has my questions just don't quick review of some of the major
changes. These were. Simply things I want either overestimated or
underestimated during the year or something came up during the year that caused the
expense to increase. The biggest one. Is probably in the facilities improvement
and that was to cover the library roof that money had to be. Moved from one line
to another to cover the difference in the library roof that was the one hundred
five thousand. We did also have the additional back truck payment that also spoke
about the last meeting because one had been made in January she didn't realize she
was going to have
a second one coming this year because the for the one in January was actually
lately because it wasn't
a year in twenty thirteen as it should have been the rest of them were just smaller
adjustments in the budget some things were came in under budget were under spent
which is why you saw the the actual negative and one of the areas. But there just
the general idea just ones that need to be made to the budget to make it even out
of the end of the. Council any specific questions for Patty. This is
a first reading but it's also
a public hearing this will be the only reading of this that will go into effect
immediately as it is an emergency or net so I will open the public hearing.
Seeing and hearing their public comment I will bring it back to council table Judy
would you please call yes yes yes absolutely yeah yes.
Next we have ordinance twenty fourteen dash twenty nine accepting any will of her
patients for twenty fifteen and declaring an emergency OK where is this ordinance
is made up to make appropriations for expenses and other expenditures of the
village Avila spring state of Ohio during the fiscal year and in December thirty
one twenty fifteen now therefore the counsel for the village Oh I just can't do
anything here to say sorry for that. Now they're for the Council for the village of
Yellow Springs Ohio here against that section one to provide for the expenses and
other expenditures of the said the little yellow springs during fiscal year in the
summer three weekly fifteen following sons of your mice and. Site inappropriate it
as follows Section two that there be appropriated from the general fund the total
general fund appropriations are three million seven hundred ninety three thousand
eight hundred fifty two dollars section three to be appropriated from following
special revenue funds that total is one million two hundred twenty five thousand
four hundred one section for the to be appropriated in the capital project funds
that total is nine hundred twenty five thousand dollars Section five that there be
appropriated for enterprise funds that total is five million two hundred sixteen
thousand nine hundred forty section six that the appropriation from the total fund
budget is as follows in that grand final is eleven million one hundred sixty one
thousand one hundred ninety three dollars section seven the finance director and
village manager here but I thrust your wants and deliberately for peanuts for from
any of the poor going appropriations upon receiving pretty proper certificates and
half of your Ruthann or council make expenditures provided that no Warrants shall
be drawn up pay for salaries or wages except to persons employed by three other and
in accordance with such ordinance Section eight this morning to take effect at the
earliest period allowed by law. Section lines or announces here but actually we
needed to delete Section eight that section nine This one says you're pretty clear
to the emergency manager really necessary to preserve the public interest and for
the health safety and welfare of the citizens religion were for this ordinance
should be in effect immediately upon its adoption of
a. Regular worship so will second and just to clarify the emergency nature of
this we are going to do two readings of the budget we will have the next reading at
the December sixteenth meeting but we're declaring an emergency so that it will be
in effect for by January first so. Melissa I think we knew that Melissa
was not going to be at this meeting she did provide us with
a letter of description and I believe that an extra four hundred five thousand
dollars for the loop completion. Project was added to the budget and there was two
hundred twenty five thousand added for the. From the. Animal fund to pay for
what what is the anticipated to be required for twenty fifteen for that consultant
for the water plant for part of the water plan and that won't that will likely not
be the entire contract but probably what we do in two thousand and fifteen so. I
Patty I don't know I'm just going to suggest that you know we we can hear from
citizens we can hear any comments that people have questions we can pass it along
but that we not make any change and just means to the budget at this point since
molests isn't here to review it and discuss and we can do that at the next meeting
if we decide we want to do that so Patty anything you want and. No I think you know
the budget that Melissa submitted in the word announces is what was discussed at
council and during the what five or six budget sessions that we held and she did
make all the adjustments and explained them quite well in her email if I think
everyone got that. If you have any questions we can certainly answer them listen
we'll be back in next week and we can be you know make any adjustments next week
for the final reading of the budget in two weeks if counsel wants to do that.
And its. Citizens so many questions or comments about the twenty fifteen budget as
I said we will be doing the second reading at the next meeting and so will be and
Melissa will be here so we will probably have
a little bit more in-depth discussion about it. And will come back to counsel table
Judy would you please call the roll since yes ask and YES YES YES.
Next we have resolution twenty fourteen dash sixty one approving
a cost of living increase for staff here as your list brings village council
amended Section two point zero for. Ca to fight ordinances with the passage of
ordinance twenty ten six which established established
a new methodology for the dozen playing whereas the village manager has used this
methodology and has recommended to the village employee which skills be adjusted by
one percent effective January one twenty fifteen and where is the village council
has concurred with this recommendation and ask that legislation be prepared to
authorize the adjustment now there for council for the village of no Springs Ohio
hit record songs that section one evolution play which scales be adjusted by one
percent Section two This increases effective January one hundred fifteen. Section
three is increased will not be applied to the salary of the village manager village
treasurer
a lot Rector section for this resolution should be in effect and in full force upon
its adoption you can get
a motion place. Second. And if you notice I don't know if you noticed that on
the table. We have provided everything and provided information about the
neighboring community and its cost of living adjustments. And I believe actually at
the last meeting that Kathy had mentioned
a two percent increase it is actually included in the budget at two percent. But
giving given the financial situation of the village right now I did lower it to one
percent and in the legislation if council wants to make it different than that
that's certainly up to council but at given the current situation. One.
And we do have you will see that. No one around us is giving lessons to.
Us the AT and I was I think I asked I know I read it in the minutes for the
position description and the Yad rough and some some kind of out salary comparison
we haven't been able to get Mosher I did you send out the email to your clerks Well
actually we just sort of will then come that given the right I think that's all
right. And in the go. And there just still
a good bit yeah the difficult part of salary comparison for us is that we have
somebody combine positions. You know Joe does the water plant and the water
reclamation facility Johnny does electric and water distribution Jason does streets
parks and rec and sewer collection and in most places those aren't combined
positions so it is going to be difficult to compare an apples to apples kind of
salary since we combine positions and that way we can certainly give it
a shot if that's what counsel wants. I think I mean I think that that's actually
something that can't have had on his agenda to look at it was salaries but it was
also just understanding that position descriptions and fine tuning those I think
that got put on the back burner with the new manager it might be something that
Patty's able to pick up on but I'm not sure that you know it I'm not sure we
rightly right now to this it would just be good to know kind of where we are really
at least on the right you know what I thought we might be able to do and I talked
to Melissa a little bit about it is is maybe doing like
a weighted average kind of the thing for you to say taking Johnny's position and
take an electric superintendent on an award distribution and kind of doing
a weighted average of those kind of things. So I don't suppose besides getting the
numbers there wasn't any sort of like narrative about why they chose those numbers
you know. And the only other piece that I feel like you know could enlighten this
a little bit is you know to maybe have done
a two or three year comparison and I'm not suggesting that the patty that staff
should have done that is just that you know it's possible that these communities
didn't give raises last year so and I believe we did it during the during the worst
of the recession. Many communities were flat lining right and I certainly never did
. So I'm I'm a guy I hate to do it to staff but I feel like
a one percent is safer for us right now so I would go with one percent.
I agree I think it's physically proven and prudent I think that's
a good recommendation. That I did I hear
a recommendation but you know I think our folks. Do a heck of
a job that they did a heck of
a job then. And going through what they felt in the
fifteen reduced it and so forth. I'd like to see that to proceed.
As I feel. I mean I think we can we could look at two other possibilities as is
compromising it at one and
a half percent or the possibility of of revisiting adding the extra adding another
percent say at the half year. Sort of lease if we once we see how if anything's
maybe revenues will be increasing or things I mean people are taking on more work
and we are getting busier we're going to have
a busy year so I I definitely. Do agree with Gerri that our
staff is is very heavily worked on and doing
a great job. But I you know I'm looking to be conservative as
conservative with the budget as we can be. And.
Then we look believe again it's six months if that's what council wants to try to
do you know if if you know if things come to fruition as as as the guys in go it
was with through
a good budget and in reduced him and I think. If if it stays that way their course
of something is
a going to be out of their parole. And. They stay prudent and
should. Be. Yeah if council wants to revisit it in six months
that's that's certainly the council's trying to. Be happy to do that and I would
support such sounds great. Any citizen comments.
Seeing and hearing none will come down. All those in favor signify by saying I I
I next just resolution twenty four that sixty two
a please contact John for the position of a system that would object to
a we're having illegitimate Springs has been without an assistant village manager
for the past fifteen years the earth village council wishes to again employ an
assistant village manager whereas following
a thorough search an interview process John Young has been offered the position
he's agreed to serve the system village manager now therefore the Council of the
village feels brings
a high here resolves that section one John Young is here by appointed to serve as
a citadel in the village manager effective January fifth twenty fifteen section to
his service in that capacity as at the pleasure of council on may be terminated at
any time for any reason or no reason Section three the duties and responsibilities
of the assistant village manager shall be determined by the village manager section
for the village manager is he right authorized and directed to execute the
employment agreement in form substantially similar to the topic of the day which is
attached to this resolution Section five this resolution shall be in full force in
effect on the first day of the fifth day of jury duty so.
OK Well let me tell you the very thought I mispronounce that it was like OK that it
had to have
a second second and not really I do have one question at this section to this. This
is the pleasure of counsel is that really true is that really it's quite easy
actually or is it fair to say the middle aged man allegedly enters Yes please thank
you for you don't want it you don't want that in your. Lives Not that it's
a good. That that should be answered here in America Yes and he may be
terminated Yeah and you will get that you cannot play keep this one.
So I'll turn it over to Pat I although I will say that that I was one of the people
that was part of the search committee and interview. Was very impressed with John
I'll let Patty talk who else was on the committee process
a little bit. Crisp onshore know who is
a village resident it was on the committee of Melissa Van Zandt who's the finance
director and we'll work directly with the assistant village manager on economic
development issues and things like that and Lois McKnight who is the Community
Development director an assistant township administer administrator for Deerfield
Township also sat on the committee is very similar to the chief selection committee
we brought in the resumes we reviewed this together as
a group talked about the pros and cons of each decided who we wanted to interview
interview for four people. John came out on top and
decided he wanted to come work here so. Ladies and gentlemen John Young the.
Time of introduce yourself and oh. I want my new job and you know us. Will
Selva you just one syllable reach words Oh as far but I leave for
work of oil guys
a minute so you. As of the House members night and I've met Karen of the interview
and the jury I want him to the you know the staff writer that he was will
meet and greet you met Mary and acquainted meet agreed as well as several of our
society Chrissy was there Lauren from the newspaper several of our citizens were
there other than her. So yes I don't know where were you guys and it was you guys
in January great regularity John. It might be also helpful to just be clear that
although the resolution states we have not had this position for fifteen years
which is true it is kind of
a combining of positions that had existed and have you were combining functions
that hadn't hadn't existed so it's not as if this is
a whole new position being created out of whole cloth it's it's a and it was
a decision made really quite some time ago very near the end of Mark Cundiff being
here so thank you for getting it done so quickly Oh absolutely it didn't take her
time to realize how important that went on so I guess we need to take
a vote all the ins and out comment from citizens. OK neck
Council all the favor signify me saying I say thank you John I will fulfill
a board. OK And then last we have resolution twenty fourteen or sixty three raising
payment and an invoice with
a then and now certificate in the fourth quarter whereas the finance director has
pending invoices each exceeding three thousand dollars for services or supplies
that were ordered into labor prior to obtaining certification from the fiscal
officer that funds were available and where is pool Sections five fifty seven
gratitude for one of the Americanized code and village policy require prayer
certification of the availability of funds for major purpose purpose purchases and
whereas the or C.
Provides an exceptional retroactive certification. The requisite funds are
available both at the time of purchase commitment was made and when people is do
not know as even
a now certificate and whereas the finance director states that sufficient
uncomfortable any is and was available both at the time the purchase was made and
the time payment was due for the obligations listed below this is for Squire Patton
Boggs in the amount of fifteen thousand six hundred fifty one dollars and fifty
cents now therefore the Council of the military feels for him so how are hereby
resolved that section one finance director here by authorizing direct you to issue
even announcer to picket for the obligation listed above and pay it from the
appropriate account on receiving a properly executed in
a certificate Section two this resolution should be in full force in effect
immediately on the path taken motion so move say. On the spree
self-explanatory but Patika one Squire Patton Boggs was the company that apparently
the village had contracted with to do some work on the sea. Project and since
the C.B.E.
Was voted down in the referendum. Earlier this hour in November was going to say
earlier this month or in December. So Squire Patton Boggs submitted these envoy
says to us for payment the money is available it's simply
a then and now because of the dates on the invoice is more than there are more than
thirty days so that's why we have to do the now for for them to be paid.
Questions. Questions or comments from citizens. OK All those in favor say
aye saying I right. Now is the part of the meeting where we hear
thinks it ascends about items that aren't on the agenda and since there really is
very little left on the agenda it would be just about anything you have to say. You
come up to and when you're recognized by by myself you come up to the microphone to
state your name your address and. Three minutes Judy will be timing three minutes.
Sell citizen so. Joe
Horn is with us. For more US words.
Hi many resume again my sister and I live it three sixteen Whitehall drive here
else. Joe Horn there are sixteen thirty five's all land around now as
friends thank you. Needs and need of it. I
wrote
a letter as you've probably seen in the presentation Yellow Springs Police Department
the first issue is the process involved in the hiring of the permanent chief of
police and the second issue is the alternation that occurred was between Sergeant
Penrod and the Ellis ring citizen I attended the agency community forum that took
place on November twenty third twenty fourteen where there were serious concerns
brought to light about the current predominant distrust based management one
prevailing desire for respect virtually all six of the small groups the new chief
your personal lives in the community and knows the community members Well we have
to set here that it's work at two such candidates that I'd like to bring back to be
active candidates Sergeant never and my husband officer Meister two weeks later
there was
a front page article in the Alice Springs news that knowledge in both internal
candidates when these men were simultaneously informed that they were not even
being considered for the position both are strong candidates both meet the
requirements and are vested members of the stone I feel strongly that this is an
injustice to the real Springs community and that they should both be independently
reconsidered especially with the revised job announcement and change of the minimum
qualifications although even. Without that revision I think that they both exceeded
the minimum qualifications. Sergeant never as we know has been serving in our
village for forty one years fifteen of those as
a surgeon the incident that occurred on November fifteenth two thousand and
fourteen in which Alice Springs resident videotaped
a sworn officer of the law clearly documents the sergeant violating the citizens
civil rights preventing the woman's constitutional right to record the surgeon is
of major concern I find it unacceptable that this law officer has not even been
placed on administrative leave while the investigation has been conducted we simply
cannot allow law officers with questionable behavior to carry a gun and
a badge it is far too dangerous to risk the public safety until we can be sure as
sure as humanly possible that the officer is fit for duty at the very least I would
like to see demotion and leave of our leave without pay for
a significant period of time. For this unlawful and despicable behavior and
this is
a revised copy of the letter that was published in the newspaper and
the letter has more in it so on the minute that you think you. Could.
Now oh I didn't know you which could go down well he said OK sure.
I've lived in Yellow Springs long enough so that. I had the pleasure of having the
former chief of police Brody as
a second grader in my classroom that just indicates I'm going around quite
a while I also had a fox. In my house as well as
a number of other people I've been here
a long time and it seems to me that the chief real. They can set
a tone for what happens in the village and how the police conduct themselves I've
been dismayed at some of the things that have changed since John Brown he stepped
down one of them being ushering kids across the street before and after school I
think that morning our. Task even though it seems small but I think for the kids
it's
a very important thing. And I I have been dismayed at the sense of sort
of militancy as I specially with the use of the SWAT team approach that happened
earlier this year and I would like to have
a police department be more geared toward being.
Supportive compassionate caring people who are looking forward to
a wonderful community to live in and I think that people who have lived here
for a time have vested
a lot of themselves in this process and I think that they have
a sense of the community which I feel is quite unique. So at any rate I urge you to
consider some of these other people that Zoe suggested because I think they would
be
a great asset in our department thank you Joe. Yes
thank you. Other comments other citizen concerns.
Me we've explained that the process with the police chief that's. It's gone through
a process and I think that they are part of our other candidates and it's really up
to the staff and the committee as to. To. How it's moving forward I think it's been
explained. Pretty well at past meetings and past cell.
And the other issue is still with under under consideration and.
Still being Crist you want to. Really get on. The line
we'll move slowly we were talking about protecting the rights of others within the
context of this primary process. Is moving along or getting into the final stages
of that and I expect that they'll be the only did exercise her right she did to
a third party previous of Larry. Today which means of that we will go with.
The earliest the decision on whatever discipline may be imposed upon it the bill
would be premature probably be and about to leave because the office. I
am hoping to expedite that because I think this needs to be disposed of but. She
did exercise that right late today and I also think it would be the you're
brilliant I'm outside That's correct it's chief Wilcox from even P.T.
. Ole Miss fan.
Needed the village handbook the village personnel manual it with part of the
disciplinary process has a provision for any employee not just
a police officer but any employee who's facing disciplinary action has the right to
exercise and request a pretty disciplined ery hearing before
a neutral third party and in this case we chose someone outside the village which
is chiefly Willcox of eat in peace. Has agreed to be that neutral third party and
hear that hearing what happens there is that that person looks at the investigation
looks at all the evidence talks to the parties involved probably yourself again
then that person listens to the employee and makes
a determination. As to what they believe to be the facts of the investigation
and they make
a recommendation which I had and not obligated to follow but I'm obligated to take
into consideration. It's essentially. A extra step in there
that ensures on the employer side fairness and equitability Chris would you agree I
would agree I mean fundamentally what we're talking about is
a suit is an opportunity where the individual who in the context of the employment
has an opportunity presented additional evidence that may be has not the result of
this suit or record which could explain maybe there were something going on in the
personal level of maybe that this person would want to out of the consideration of
whatever the problem here might be it's just fun it really just comes down to the
supply aspect or atmosphere there you know that employee has
a right to present his or her place in the situation like this. Because that if
that in chief has no ties to this village or to. Sergeant Penrod as
far as past employment. While she did that for
a while work part time for it in P.D.
Chief Wilcox was not there at that time so he does not have
a tie to her we didn't want to choose Green County for obvious reasons and we
didn't want to use Montgomery County because of Chief Hales ties there so we look
for someone outside that realm that wouldn't have any ties to anyone involved.
Any other citizens concerns. Me.
Thanks for that shit. Though my name is Amy Magnus I live and one fifty five For
excited to write I just wanted to make one comment about the. The process.
For the search for the least is that there are I would like to see the we
never see things like this and takes the position that I like to see the process
that was begun on the community process that was begun continued in some past and
he absolutely So if it leaves us with the police officers that we have been forcing
these for you know he's serious so that we can grow arms freshly supervisor looked
on because I think that me for stronger and I think you're right. And I'd like to
address that as well as
a couple he says I was said I absolutely agree with with the comments that
if you want an officer to be invested in the community and I do I absolutely am
taking into consideration everything that came out of the H R C forum and all of
the comments that I've gotten from residents be e-mail and everything else because
. If they weren't able to make the forum and they felt you know
a need to contact me
a lot of them have done that via email and so I am taking all that into
consideration it was the first thing that we discussed at the first meeting of the
committee is the results of the forum and that these things needed to apply to the
chief and I also absolutely agree that the discipline starts the example starts at
the top and works its way down I absolutely agree with that and that is something
that we have actually talked about how we need that to work in and in. See grow the
officers in that way so please be assured that I am I'm doing as much as I can to
take all of these things into consideration. As we go through this process and
council is committed to continuing the community dialogue also I think we talked
about that at the last meeting when H R C presented their findings from that Unity
Forum and I don't know I think that they are there they're here develop make
developing
a plan that's right yes so you know what was brought up at our last meeting or so
ideas some suggestions that we're going to be working on at our meeting this month
and continuing to develop ideas to bring back you know it's all right so you hear
one thing you know I don't know. Where we would stand and so forth but I
did read today that President Obama one of the things that he had recommended in
the folks that he talked to recommended to the. Poor before.
Cameras in camps in the in the. He gave the number of
communities that have been and and don't have and in the pairs that he he may be in
toward helping out the smaller communities. I think that's something that unless
you we should you know explore. Given that we have
a small department him we normally only have two officers on duty at
a time that it may be
a way. That they could share the the equipment in and be able to do not
download it once they're there is shift it is completed in the next person with him
when he. Came where getting it is something to think of it is something that we
have discussed is the button camera the look how chaotic and fell camps it is it's
interesting. You mean here that right that enables you know federal funds we know
what they are also not as hard but again they write if we want our offices to be
more humane minded and so forth they're going to yell the cars more absolute so
that they that that is in it. The statistics has shown that. As more and
more officers are wearing Camors on the the amount of this
huge or. Allegations on the new decides seems to diminish
an absolute when both parties are are really protected because you have
a visual plus Oh are you. Absolutely recording of what really did
place things I think
a very quickly I just miss have somebody else that I had and I just want to say
that in addition to the body cameras that were talked about there is also
a larger effort towards community policing and so there should be opportunities for
training there are open every night and I get the right thank you thank fans. As.
Almost. Yes friends and allies at our.
House Party cameras are all. I think that. We do
not have body cameras at this time for achieve no why and we don't cause I there
was discussion as to whether one person had bought their own but as
a department we do not have them that. We have in the car dash cam we do have dash
cams and are those on at all times or it is the officer turned them on how do they
often go out on
a traffic stop or are they reacting that way fight with your wife or do you know
all night long all.
Right. Are so right. Oh all
right so automatic all that. Is all.
Things you need to be here so that.
You can you come to where I know it's
a pains are. Just like any computer my name is over
any meister. They need to be downloaded so that the memory is there for new
information and there is an incident just over
a year ago where that was not done and so there was nothing on videotape but was
very fortunate so they need to be monitored and that Telstra supervision issue
right so the supervisor wasn't making sure that the employee was doing that or so
OK Thank you. Yes Kate.
You have attended with the further into Justin's fund be something that can be used
for the cameras I believe so there are some restrictions on that but they just
loosen them up recently and that was kind of
a discussion we had as far as the the cruiser that was in the budget that we
removed so I think that I think those are under electronic equipment can be used
for others and justice can be used for those things Thanks Kate. Any other citizen
comments. OK I will.
Close the citizen comment portion do you think only other piece of business we have
other than trying to future agenda items this is
a survey Brian I'll turn it over here to talk about this community access panel
survey. Soon. The main mission of community access
is according to the ordinance is to assess the needs of the community and one of
the things that we realized is that we had not really done not in
a while so for the past couple months we've sort of been working on different ideas
looking at what other communities have done and we've got it down to this would be
on
a half page. So it would be. Half of the now file leavened and
the idea is basically do fulfill that Mrs mission to figure out what do citizens
was from Channel five and from community access obviously we've been doing
a lot with the Internet so we want to look at that more and see if there are some
things that we're not thinking about what other kind of content can we offer and so
what we'd like to do is get the survey out as soon as possible we are planning to
use Survey Monkey and also put it in the paper as an insert Yes private one
things that we discussed
a cap was put in them on having your stock the right to be I don't know yet is
their decision about yeah I think we like to do that still so would it be is it
like a large postcard for me yeah and then we would have
a place for the address on the back stick
a stamp on so you can mail it in or do the Survey Monkey. In
there. You bring in the used this is here they're useless and you know it was in
our package Yes Yes So I guess one thing is if there's any feedback anything that
looks unclear someone might be missing. But I'm excited about the initiative I mean
I definitely think it's been
a while since we've really figured out what how citizens are using Channel five and
with this movement again towards more online content it would be good to. See how
people are using it. And I think that I don't concern if it's going
to. I think it's now great or you know we're meeting like I said on Wednesday so
our plan is to sort of get the P.R.
Schedule going in then get it out by next week. The.
Managers for. One thing that
council should be aware of and I believe you all know is this fan and has requested
that
a criminal investigation be initiated into the incident that she had with Sergeant
Penrod that has happened. In Clark County S.O.
Is going to be conducting that investigation we did contact out of chief was able
to get ahold of you we did contact Fayette Madison counties but they both said
since Clark had agreed and they both it indicated they had full faith in Clark
County. I did meet with Miss fan and for two hours the other day myself and Chris
Connor spoke to her about the incident as part of my part of the disciplinary
and so Clark County has begun that investigation I think they've already spoken
with you right and so we will be awaiting the outcome of that that is separate from
the disciplinary process the disciplinary process will proceed internally and we
will be waiting for that decision to issue our discipline so we will move forward
on that. And would move you know might have been
a good. Amount there the investigation the results of that comes of that
investigation of the criminal investigation moves that go to Clark County will take
the results of that straight to the county prosecutor Mr Lewis. And in the end he
will make the decision as to whether he's going to file those charges that are
thank you. I have offered John the assistant village manager position and he has.
Accepted John was actually I had asked him to come to the one on the fifteenth but
he explained to me that he was going to be down in Nashville visiting his folks and
I didn't want to have to drive back so that's why you see here this evening. I am
awaiting the final contract from each in T.V.
We will have
a resolution at the next meeting for council. And I think it will be
a good resolution under the circumstances. Dizzying Avenue sidewalks are complete
and the cemetery Street project will be finished this week they're putting in the
last couple of taps up there the sockets in the street have been paved back over
and that has been seeded straw and they will be moving the. The mailboxes again for
the folks but we've made arrangements for. The mail carrier to be able to get to
the mailboxes that was kind of
a problem that residents were unable to get their mail for
a long time that has been resolved. We did receive two additional applications.
In the extended deadline for the chief of police the selection. Committee
the Advisory Board is looking those over to determine if we want to interview them
or simply move forward with the two finalists that we have council doesn't need to
set
a day to do the council interviews with the two finalist that we have now. I did ask
everyone to bring
a calendar with them so that we could set that and get that along I'm hoping to
have the council interviews the same evening as the public meet and greet for the
chief and that is what's that date it is whatever we decide it to be OK.
I will tell you that right now I have meetings Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday
this week and Monday Tuesday next week so. So
there is earliest with the record fifteen Well I mean we could do it Wednesday or
Thursday evening next week if that's. If that's an if if councils available to do
and then when the two candidates are sitting here. I could do the ten.
Of the public our commission meetings the total Oh it is. It's always the second
one today I thought I got moved because it's not on my schedule.
But I mean I mean I first take the eleventh that awhile that allow us to publish
twice on the paper. And I'm available. At what time.
Likes seven I think she's thinking of earlier than that for council earlier for
council and then have the meet and greet after leg so it's six or hollering if we
can do I've got
a departmental meeting or that and sat on the ten things I did you hear that means
I'm four fifteen five thirty I can be here at six minutes early if we do six six
and seven on the terms for the interviews and do eight to. Nine thirty eight to
nine thirty for the public meet and greet or can you do can can the candidate
that's right trade off so that the candidate can be in the public meet and greet.
You when they're not in the interview I'm sure it's just that way it would I mean
one thirty seems awfully late for people to have to surely we have
a people can be in the council part and ask questions is that how are things you
know to be an open it's an open the it's already there will be opportunity for the
public to ask questions so that doesn't make sense that maybe we have but we
wouldn't want the other hand in it so it would be good for there to be the public
session in A and B.
We can do it and useful if people are that interested the probably going to want to
be in here we can begin asking questions we can do it the week of the fifteenth and
just. Do that. Actually firing at the first meeting in January he wanted to know
that I'm going to check my. Schedule just to make sure that.
You know something so to say fifty the fifty this council but the week of the fifty
is there a couple you know or
a little fish or Marian would I CAN'T YOU sixty you actually have to be there on
which day he's what is it sixteen. And what thirty in the
campus on Wednesday of the. No caps not his on the third I'm sorry so you have to
wait and I did notice that so you had it so again could could see the Arts Council
meeting. You Tuesday Tuesday you because of some like to.
See the. It's if. He is there
anything in the end can it can then December meeting need to be canceled
potentially Well we haven't we actually have
a guest speaker coming out of the pack Yeah about the motorcycle I don't.
Mean any time that we could go to OK. I realize it doesn't but it.
Just seems like Oh I do I can do it yeah I can do it any time that week except
Tuesday except the sixty's when I was it was said that it would be Wednesday
Wednesday or Thursday for me. Oh Thursday December Thursday December eighteenth.
Yeah that's better for me. Than. Thursday December eighteenth Council
interviews. At six and seven thirty. How do you wanna do the time what
time can we say I can start it's early in my semester is over at that point OK so
that if only we could start over I have a good start for let's why don't we start
a four. Start at four interviews from four to five thirty and from five thirty to
seven enemy agreed from seven to nine. Hundred and
One interview from four o'clock to five thirty gives an hour and
a half the actual secondary from five thirty to seven an hour and
a half there and then to me grief from seven to nine yes OK Everybody's good.
To I will get that all scheduled were Council. OK.
Two other things that are not on my report the question the council had about the
Mercer court sidewalks.
If you were to take the sidewalks out the sidewalks would have to be put in fact
unless the village petitioned the planning commission for a variance to make that
a. What's called an estate style street it's not wide enough to not have
sidewalks per the zoning code so if the sidewalks were taken out they would have to
be put back unless we formally petitioned to. Be allowed to not put them back.
To second thing is. There is
a. Need does that sound feasible or you know if
it's feasible to do it I would I don't know that I would
encourage. Council to do it because the estate style story is in the the street
was not built to conform with the description of an estate style street in the
zoning because it's not wide enough and so I don't think it's something I would
encourage Council to want to proceed with. But.
Bit Doris' in their eyes because you're looking at the. You condition of the side
long it's right here right there the possibility of it need to go to
a number to reduce right so this one is right it I mean A is
the best option would be to to repair and rebuild the sidewalks but when you do
that you're going to damage the tree roots anyway so the some of the trees are
going to die back because of the damage to the roots and it's kind of a
a conundrum that's why I don't like to build psychotics in your trees or plant
trees in your side of things but maybe it's something that John and I can get our
heads together on once he gets in and we can start with
a trial project settling in Don We've got lots of talk rather rapidly about it sure
. We've got lots of talking about it is going to be all Joe tree
oh I. See the sidewalks and trees orthogonal on top of trees you've
seen tree receding sidewalks and so one of the things that I've lived in pursuing
in Bellevue was actually. Trying to install. Bugs of all
payments and style around the tree roots and that allows the truth to your Grove of
The Tree of the cycles to remain and know what it is and cost of that so that you
could reach into one great oh just bring it with you when you come on the fifth.
This is not going to happen not in the thick of it all way before you have your.
More to do with do not do in this particular area. The only other thing is I had
meant to have this included impact it is apparently one of the things I forgot to
get to Judy during the short week. The village personnel manual and the way
into dresses part time employees who are eligible for benefits is it's applied
evenly and we need to make it uniform across the board and the simplest way to do
that is to make
a wording change in the personnel policy instead of saying. That.
The village pays any fifteen percent of the premium for full time employees and
then we pay
a pro-rated percentage of the premium for part time employees based upon their
hours of work but it's unevenly applied for various reasons some because they came
in under
a different man all summer because the employees are exempt the easiest way to do
it this would affect two employees is just to change the wording to read that the
village pays fifteen percent of the premium for all eligible employees regardless
of the number of hours work if Council were to do that it would affect the budget
to the tune of three thousand seven hundred fifty dollars annually for two
employees that's total for both employees so that is something I would like Council
to consider doing just to make everything uniform it's very difficult right now you
have to take the number of hours the employee works in it's
a percentage of that based on the number of hours it never comes out right it's
different for every part time employee it's just really confusing. Is this
something could be is would council entertain having Patty bring that legislation
to the next meeting or. That's all I have is that it would go in that.
It would have to have two reading simply because it's an ordinance and you know we
go thirty days after that but our open enrollment was last month anyway we we
signed up for the month of December because we got in early so I mean so yeah
there's no benefit to doing it that's an emergency not really. To get the.
OK I found it easier illiterate for the. Preacher so that something on the other
it's just didn't get really busy every twenty fifteen which seems. Really.
OK I'm sorry do you have one other thing and I skipped right over it and. In my
report no it's not in here because this is the only part of. The taskforce did
offer us several vehicles. That they had confiscated. I turned down three of them.
Two Cadillacs and
a Lincoln Navigator I turned those down home however I would recommend to counsel
that we accept the other two vehicles the first one is
a Ford Expedition which is what we were looking at buying
a police department anyway it is
a two thousand and three Ford Expedition. And it has it does have
a hundred thirty eight thousand miles on it but there are some pictures of that the
other is a two thousand one Toyota extended cab Tundra pickup with
a cap on it has about one hundred thirty eight thousand miles but both of these are
the holes are in great shape. They're confiscated they're the cost of the village
and we could definitely use both you know what would the so that. The expedition
would be repainted and become
a police vehicle and would have to tender the tundra Actually I would probably
clean that up and drive it myself because I like the trucks. And that would make
the Taurus available is another staff car. And it would also be available to
new public works like when the electric department delivers the flour and sugar and
they could have done it out of the tundra instead of tying up the bay and going to
the meter reader man you can always use another small pickup. And a has
a cap on it which is great would you have to order I would I don't care if it's
right it's probably have
a mark to go but do you know that you know yeah so if it was there it was.
If it except
a will to council Why will. I will move ahead with that this money or if it's. We
don't that's confiscated vehicles there's guns yeah they are rock free of charge
correct thank you. From. The queue we have if you're going through.
A. Similar have future agenda items. So we
just added to the dressing room for. Insurance and glory insurance ordinance
it's amending the personnel manual.
Do we need to do We don't need to have legislation for this vehicle she just talked
about. I don't know have to look into that probably so we'll have the agent to be
resolution the next meeting and we'll have. A say in you
we will have something for the skatepark kinder since your opening bids on the
eleventh OK what about our Law Council.
We had the R.F.Q.
And everyone has their copies but we have been so busy that the council needs to
get together and we need to discuss and rank them like we did to decide who we want
to come in and make a presentation to us just like we did with
a consultant we can schedule that whenever counsel wants I sent letters to all of
those folks telling them that we had just gotten bogged down in there would be
after the first of the year before we consider how the timing forward. Just because
it got so crazy we didn't have to know not some of the I just wanted to make sure
it right since it's not even listed as an agenda item. You know we should write
should have that. I mean it's
a kind of thing that would be done in an executive session partly or would it not.
Yes it would be done part at least partly an executive session to do the ranking.
So I have legal IRA here we have you. So what's the ordinance twenty fourteen dash
twenty nine seconds I mean just as it was then that's the. Year that I don't feel
like I did OK. And then you have
the transfer of funds and declaring an emergency that you're twenty fifteen years
for them so that again just worrying. Them and then you're so have to be
transferring. Funds from the general fund to an R.P.
To the Sea Bright green at the range. That was cleaning up that grant.
Fiasco that Lois and figured out. One of the goals that
Mary and I had was to bring something to the next meeting related to the
streamlining of the commissions and I guess in particular she wanted to focus on
the Code of Conduct first commission members first so I think there's
a good chance that we'll have that oh it's December sixteenth OK. Is it fifteen to
fifteen. OK Did did we get any more.
Applicants to work out the no further chart of you know.
I think I may need to do what we did or. I think commissions see me over.
We mailed out we brainstormed that people we made we mailed
a specific invitation to people that we thought would be good. That's right just
not get people often to step up if they're asked if they don't always know just not
always paying attention to all the ads in the paper and the things I think we may
need to be. His act of it yes. We can.
I think we talked about it of. The arc yes rules who will get to give the.
OK So then do we figure out you know because I really I don't remember now the time
frame I know we had to do with less. Than the notion was that the committee would
be seated at the very first part of January so that they could start working on it
so it is getting
a little bit you know well and then that remember the charter amendments have to be
on the ballot on the mind right so we're not going to be in time for May So we're
actually going to be cutting it close for November you can have
a. Half or so as far as generating some of those names how would we go about doing
I think Council can just send send them to you to go OK we have any ideas that give
us an idea. Because with I think we'll only have one right you know. Maybe we
should explain the charter review if you think you could write what the charter is
and review so people are clear on it the the charter is the governing document
of incorporation for the village it essentially explains the village government and
how it functions charter review the church has
a provision for the charter to be reviewed every five years which I think we're
overdue for if I'm not mistaken and they need the review committee has to be made
up of
a variety of folks including many of them citizens residents of the of the
village so Judy had sent out to put out an ad in the paper and on the website
asking for folks to volunteer to be part of this review committee and to
suggest and recommend. To Council and well actually to put onto the ballot I
think it goes directly to the ballot in November for revisions and changes to the
charter. And once those passed the voters
by popular vote they become new amendments the charter and therefore new amendments
to the way the village does business and the council approves those councils and
does so yes yes that and that because there were recommending that it is long OK
except the last time OK that OK I wasn't that part I wasn't going to post it with
a broom and then yes and then they go on to devour it right there I think the other
you know now thinking about it the other the other piece that might be complicate
matters is the legal is R R solicitor and the fact that we are probably going to be
starting with we may be starting with what it is. Well maybe in transition I think
that you can start the initial work of the committee without the solicitor present
as you're going to want to start reviewing it and digging into the charter in depth
although the the thing that we do need from the solicitor and this is actually what
what pushed us the last time we did it were
a number of things that we got from John Chambers where our charter wasn't
complying with the law so you know those are things that we are not going to know
that we're going to require our solicitor is going to have to tell us hey you need
to change is the charter right because state law is now I think I think of counsel
makes an effort after the first of the year to review the R.F.
Cues and then decide who they want to have presentations you do present
presentations in February and make a decision you can have
a new solicitor in here by late March early April of one of those we decide to I
mean not to sort of move it up but what about summer fifteenth. For third
reviewing they are of Q.'s if counsel for. I mean I've already done my analysis of
the mind I'm not ready to do it so it's very clear we need it six o'clock or do you
want to meet it to understand why. The looks of it now.
And see if there's just. So just a lot of legislation actually a lot of it is
a lot of reading and yet if you'll be desired to the rest of us will be on it
listen to this it. Says with.
The Oh I see yeah I can I can come early that that day so the history that six
o'clock. There's
a couple things on here on this on the Future Gen items the sidewalk policy you
know that's something that it sounds like John is going to be the perfect person to
take that on so maybe we can put that on his plate and not expect it you know not
expect that it's going to be. In the very beginning of his of his tenure and then
also the SEATO agreement that's really going to be his in his park and then I'd
also like to add. Prioritizing economic sustainability discussion or
commission whatever how and again that would be something that John would be
involved with so. I would say Those see those things being maybe mid to
end of of the first quarter. Zero be busy yet after
we've already planning
a life. You know that she said life. She said General she did she
wasn't talking just professional you know. Anything else counsel for the.
You know again in the you know it is. If I had
a chance to see the the the work that was done by the congressman's son. I thought
the do. You know you even. Pet you need the
space between the new Kirby industry was. Filled with and also right really in
those days are we going to. Look to New York
a couple groups trees is it one where we're not going to put up trees I want to
reduce them but if we look into that nobody wants to love them to us and they're
fairly expensive to purchase what will happen is that once we get the lights up
we'll decorate the streetlights hoping to at least have something that will do the
trees that are there in the street lights and and we'll go from there who will be
so much festive right now but it was
a great push to last that that Wednesday that Tuesday and Wednesday I'll tell you I
was amazed and I was relieved and thankful and then folks were out on
Friday working Also there were situations on Friday that got taken care of just so
our crews worked through the holidays and it's
a good work and it's and Mike and I were actually up in the village on Saturday and
looking at that house and looking at different things and it seemed to be pretty
busy downtowns Yeah I heard I got great reports from merchants both Friday and
Saturday after death Friday and Saturday and
a small business I don't know what times and so forth. But which is
and I had say you know. People have to be more
careful as they say they cross Xin Yeah. It will be
a good two spaces but people were are just coming from from there
were just so the defacto Cross was. By
a host of So we just you know it have to be careful as you drive through downtown
you know during the holiday season so folks are excited. You know the opening car
doors and you just you know look so. Great
to. Do it motion to adjourn so Rove said all his endeavor sort of racing
right I.